MORGAN: I don't remember reading Jesus Christ saying you cannot use condoms to prevent diseases. I don't remember him saying priests -- Catholic priests can't get married. I don't remember him saying divorced Catholics can't remarry in church. Or that female priests can't be ordained. None of these things have actually come from Jesus Christ's own mouth. JILLETTE: Absolutely. But now you're talking Martin Luther. That was Martin Luther saying that an individual -- I don't think he actually mentioned you by name, but an individual could interpret the Bible themselves. The idea, as I understand it, of the Catholic church is that it's not interpreting the Bible yourself. You have somebody who is actually able to do that. Once you have somebody that is telling you, we are interpreting God for you, it seems like you either agree or you don't. You either say, like Martin Luther, I'm going to have a direct relationship with the word of God, or I'm going to go through a conduit of God on Earth, which would be the Pope. MORGAN: I can't believe I have Penn Jillette in front of me actually defending my church against my own criticisms of it. Anyway -- JILLETTE: You're getting more Martin LutherAgain, rat own. This is America. Catholics and Protestants can co-exist, do business with one another, love one another. And if you find yourself no longer in line with your church's beliefs, you're welcome to leave. It's that simple. It's a great arrangement. You only need to have a little Websterian logic to make it work. Choose your side, then go support it. But stop the straddling.